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Notice 59?
I am confused this is regarding the meet on sunday, read this on another forum that if i don't have the landowners permission all of us maybe sectioned with a notice 59 what does it mean?
Need this sorted by tomorrow, so i can go to krispy kreme tomorrow and make sure i have permission.
Need this sorted by tomorrow, so i can go to krispy kreme tomorrow and make sure i have permission.
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... Ok keep us posted you just need to get in contact with them and ask the manager if its ok etc. I know the Trafford Centre allow them at there bottom car parks, away from the shops themselves, we may need to contact them thou.
I thought this was a meet we were joining up with to be honest
Keep me posted pal.
I thought this was a meet we were joining up with to be honest
Keep me posted pal.
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Nope lorenzo i arranged the meet i shall be down at krispy kreme first thing tomorrow morning to speak to the manager but thing is its not at the krispy kreme carpark but the one right next to it
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lorenzo drop me your number so i can keep you posted
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Have a look at the meet section pal. I have suggested the car park furthest away from the TC there overflow car park there is a lot of bushes etc round it so its nice and quiet etc. Contact them if you like mate ill message you my number mate.
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Sounds like a better idea Lorenzo
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Well if plans for tc fall through I can arrange space for us on the complex I manage
www.parrswoodmanchester.co.uk
not to far from TC
www.parrswoodmanchester.co.uk
not to far from TC
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HJ323 wrote:Nope lorenzo i arranged the meet i shall be down at krispy kreme first thing tomorrow morning to speak to the manager but thing is its not at the krispy kreme carpark but the one right next to it
The car park your on abour next to Krispy Kreme belong to Costco (cash & carry) place, been to a few meets there and as long as no one misbehaves it usually ok
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Mawey wrote:HJ323 wrote:Nope lorenzo i arranged the meet i shall be down at krispy kreme first thing tomorrow morning to speak to the manager but thing is its not at the krispy kreme carpark but the one right next to it
The car park your on abour next to Krispy Kreme belong to Costco (cash & carry) place, been to a few meets there and as long as no one misbehaves it usually ok
Nice One Mawey so its set its at the original location
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Section 59 issued as follows:
59 Vehicles used in manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance
(1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which-
(a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public,
he shall have the powers set out in subsection (3).
(2) A constable in uniform shall also have the powers set out in subsection (3) where he has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle has been used on any occasion in a manner falling within subsection (1).
(3) Those powers are-
(a) power, if the motor vehicle is moving, to order the person driving it to stop the vehicle;
(b) power to seize and remove the motor vehicle;
(c) power, for the purposes of exercising a power falling within paragraph (a) or (b), to enter any premises on which he has reasonable grounds for believing the motor vehicle to be;
(d) power to use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of any power conferred by any of paragraphs to (a) to (c).
(4) A constable shall not seize a motor vehicle in the exercise of the powers conferred on him by this section unless-
(a) he has warned the person appearing to him to be the person whose use falls within subsection (1) that he will seize it, if that use continues or is repeated; and
(b) it appears to him that the use has continued or been repeated after the the warning.
(5) Subsection (4) does not require a warning to be given by a constable on any occasion on which he would otherwise have the power to seize a motor vehicle under this section if-
(a) the circumstances make it impracticable for him to give the warning;
(b) the constable has already on that occasion given a warning under that subsection in respect of any use of that motor vehicle or of another motor vehicle by that person or any other person;
(c) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that such a warning has been given on that occasion otherwise than by him; or
(d) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the person whose use of that motor vehicle on that occasion would justify the seizure is a person to whom a warning under that subsection has been given (whether or not by that constable or in respect the same vehicle or the same or a similar use) on a previous occasion in the previous twelve months.
(6) A person who fails to comply with an order under subsection (3)(a) is guilty of an offence and shall be liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(7) Subsection (3)(c) does not authorise entry into a private dwelling house.
( The powers conferred on a constable by this section shall be exercisable only at a time when regulations under section 60 are in force.
(9) In this section-
"driving" has the same meaning as in the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52);
"motor vehicle" means any mechanically propelled vehicle, whether or not it is intended or adapted for use on roads; and
"private dwelling house" does not include any garage or other structure occupied with the dwelling house, or any land appurtenant to the dwelling house.
Basically, if you mess about or get complained about, you could be given a s.59 if you dont move on when asked etc. Normally these are issued to 'boy racers' who hoot around town with big exhausts, music blaring etc despite having a warning previously. If you have a minimoto turn up - then a sec. 59 will almost certainly be issued to whoever is resposnsible...
That is from a police officer. Krispy Kremes will be open till 10 so we shall be fine with regards to parking up
59 Vehicles used in manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance
(1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which-
(a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public,
he shall have the powers set out in subsection (3).
(2) A constable in uniform shall also have the powers set out in subsection (3) where he has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle has been used on any occasion in a manner falling within subsection (1).
(3) Those powers are-
(a) power, if the motor vehicle is moving, to order the person driving it to stop the vehicle;
(b) power to seize and remove the motor vehicle;
(c) power, for the purposes of exercising a power falling within paragraph (a) or (b), to enter any premises on which he has reasonable grounds for believing the motor vehicle to be;
(d) power to use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of any power conferred by any of paragraphs to (a) to (c).
(4) A constable shall not seize a motor vehicle in the exercise of the powers conferred on him by this section unless-
(a) he has warned the person appearing to him to be the person whose use falls within subsection (1) that he will seize it, if that use continues or is repeated; and
(b) it appears to him that the use has continued or been repeated after the the warning.
(5) Subsection (4) does not require a warning to be given by a constable on any occasion on which he would otherwise have the power to seize a motor vehicle under this section if-
(a) the circumstances make it impracticable for him to give the warning;
(b) the constable has already on that occasion given a warning under that subsection in respect of any use of that motor vehicle or of another motor vehicle by that person or any other person;
(c) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that such a warning has been given on that occasion otherwise than by him; or
(d) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the person whose use of that motor vehicle on that occasion would justify the seizure is a person to whom a warning under that subsection has been given (whether or not by that constable or in respect the same vehicle or the same or a similar use) on a previous occasion in the previous twelve months.
(6) A person who fails to comply with an order under subsection (3)(a) is guilty of an offence and shall be liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(7) Subsection (3)(c) does not authorise entry into a private dwelling house.
( The powers conferred on a constable by this section shall be exercisable only at a time when regulations under section 60 are in force.
(9) In this section-
"driving" has the same meaning as in the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52);
"motor vehicle" means any mechanically propelled vehicle, whether or not it is intended or adapted for use on roads; and
"private dwelling house" does not include any garage or other structure occupied with the dwelling house, or any land appurtenant to the dwelling house.
Basically, if you mess about or get complained about, you could be given a s.59 if you dont move on when asked etc. Normally these are issued to 'boy racers' who hoot around town with big exhausts, music blaring etc despite having a warning previously. If you have a minimoto turn up - then a sec. 59 will almost certainly be issued to whoever is resposnsible...
That is from a police officer. Krispy Kremes will be open till 10 so we shall be fine with regards to parking up
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Re: Notice 59?
LOL Joe i'm just looking out for our best interests
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